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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 6:55 am |
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| waterhead |
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I have been working on using the pcHDTV HD-3000 in the Windows platform. I chose to use Media Portal. It is a free, opensource program. It is still in the developemental stage, so keep that in mind. Another program that I tried was GBPVR, but I preferred Media Portal.
Following are the steps I used to get it working:
1) A clean install of WindowsXP is desirable. My first attempt was on an existing installation, while I had the HD-3000 working, after an update the computer would constantly crash. I reinstalled WinXP, ServicePack2 and all of the updates. A separate partition for the video is also desireable.
2) Install all drivers for the motherboard.
3) Install audio & video drivers.
4) Install the Windows drivers for the HD-3000. These are found on the installation disc in the windows folder. The disc can be downloaded from the pcHDTV web site:
http://www.pchdtv.com/downloads/HD-3000-CD-04.tar.gz
Install them according to the instructions on the disc. The directions for testing it are incorrect, it wants you to load the WDM tuner, when you want the BDA tuner. More on testing it later.
5) Download and install Media Portal:
http://www.team-mediaportal.com/
6) Run GraphEdit. It can be obtained from Media Portal:
http://www.shspvr.com/graph_build/download/graphedit_dx9.zip
7) Follow the instructions on the Media Portal web site on how to install a card. Do this before running the Media Portal setup.
http://www.team-mediaportal.com/mpwiki/Add_TVCard_to_natively_supported_list
You need to select the "Microsoft ATSC Network Provider" instead of the DVBT the instructions say. You don't have to write down all of the stuff that the directions say to do, this is for submitting a card that is not on their list. The HD-3000 is already on their list, but I needed to make one change.
I changed this line:
<filter cat="tunerdevice" name="Conexant 2388x BDA ATSC Tuner/Demod" checkdevice="true"/>
To this:
<filter cat="tunerdevice" name="Conexant BDA ATSC Tuner/Demod" checkdevice="true"/>
This information was obtained from the graph, your setup may be different.
8) Download XMLTV and put it in the XMLTV folder under Media Portal, in the Program Files section.
9) Run the Media Portal setup wizard. I was able to scan for ATSC channels as part of setup wizard. This takes a LONG time. It scans 255 channels and takes about 15 seconds for each channel scan, so allow about an hour. Also, follow this recommendation from the Media Portal forum:
http://forum.team-mediaportal.com/viewtopic.php?t=12801
The first time that I ran it, it crashed the computer after a short time. When checking the setup I found that it was not using the video codec that I wanted. Go to the settings section in the main screen to change it. I am using the nVidia PureVideo decoder and BOB for deinterlacing. It hasn't crashed again (knock on wood).
That's it! I'll add anything that comes to mind. |
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Last edited by waterhead on Sat Jun 10, 2006 5:50 am; edited 1 time in total _________________ Mythbuntu 8.04
Intel D875PBZ main board
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nVidia 6600GT
pcHDTV HD-3000
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:09 pm |
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| sonnik |
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Good info. I had overlooked the .pdf document with instructions on how to install the Windows drivers.
I'm still having a few problems (audio) - but I'm sure I can figure that out. However, good work actually documenting how to do something like this. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:05 pm |
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| waterhead |
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Thanks.
I thought that I would be raked over the coals for even suggesting using Windows, on this forum. Instead, I mostly have been ignored.
I have a thread started at the Media Portal forums on using the HD-3000. It may give you more info:
Using the pcHDTV card in Media Portal
I just put in a new motherboard, so I'll be completely redoing my system. I want to wait a bit because I've installed this copy of WinXP so many times, they will not let me activate it again! I don't have that problem with Linux.
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:25 pm |
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| Scott Larson |
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| waterhead wrote: | | I thought that I would be raked over the coals for even suggesting using Windows, on this forum. Instead, I mostly have been ignored. |
Well, you didn't really suggest using Windows. You just gave great info on how to use the HD-3000 with Windows. Why someone would want to do this, I can't imagine.
Now if you said "Hey Linux losers, dump your silly toy OS and run your HD-3000 with a real operating system", then I'm sure you wouldn't have been ignored at all.  |
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:08 pm |
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| waterhead |
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| Scott Larson wrote: | | Why someone would want to do this, I can't imagine. |
Well, I spent months trying to get everything to work properly in Linux (FC4).
In one free afternoon I got it to work, in Windows, at least as good as it did in Linux. And that included reformatting the hard drive and installing WinXP.
I've got it working even better now than it ever did in Linux. Mainly because I now can use the nVidia PureVideo decoder with my 6600GT card.
I'm not thru with using it with Linux, I am just enjoying watching HDTV with the card without the constant tweaking. I have Fedora Core 5 downloaded and will try it again when time permits. |
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Intel D875PBZ main board
Pentium4 3.06Ghz
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nVidia 6600GT
pcHDTV HD-3000
Air2PC PCI
MythTV 0.21 |
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:04 pm |
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| Jim |
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I at one time was greatly helped with a member of the forum to get my first PCHDTV box going, a small case that I also wanted to use as a portable gaming and home media box...Take with me to game or OTA HDTV PVR to test home theaters.
Spent months, with FC3, could run would not trust it as a parachute.
Got a Dragon franchise for my shop, It will do everything as advertised.
But it is in the same realm as an experimental airplane design..It will work but it may crash easily.
I recently trained to be certified by ISF. Windows is coming down our throat like w95 as a consumer appliance as a M$ Windows home media system. I tell my customers to try Linux stuff, but they are already seeing the windows home media stuff in stores. This is like W95 to me..Sucky but easy to understand.
My ISF teacher was involved in the home theater calibration software included in the oem WHMC distribution.
Believe me, this hurts...
I would have to spend a few hours getting my Dragon demo set up to record say the Tour de France, and I would get it, perfectly in 1080i, cut out commercials, transfer recording to DVD in data files without further compression, to keep forever or put on DVD. If my wife read this, she would not understand. TIVO is what my wife would understand and M$ is trying for this.
BTW Join EFF.org and IPACTION.org so we can keep tivo and pchdtv stuff.
DRM and HDMI and HDCP = bad stuff. |
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:24 pm |
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| Scott Larson |
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| waterhead wrote: | | Well, I spent months trying to get everything to work properly in Linux (FC4). |
I've never gotten anything to work very well in Windows. I've worked with all the versions from 3.0 to XP Pro. The only improvements are that blue screens have been replaced with system lockups (mouse still works but you can't do anything).
I switched to Linux when I got tired of not being able to fix anything. Any "problem solving" in Windows was just voodoo involving random acts of removing, unplugging, replacing, reinstalling, and changing things until something accidentally worked. Then you discover two other things don't work now. There was no way to figure out anything. I have reinstalled Windows hundreds of times in my life because that was the only way to unscrew everything that was screwed up.
When I got my HD-2000 it didn't work out of the box but it was just a matter of figuring out why it didn't work. I learned tons of stuff getting it to work. Since then I've learned far more than that because HDTV and video is an exciting field.
If you want a good HDTV card for Windows, don't waste an afternoon with a pcHDTV product. Get a MyHD card or some other card that will work right out of the box (if you're luckier than me). |
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