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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:58 am Reply with quote
jcllings
 
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
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Location: Washington State




What we really need is a cable card that goes into a PC. I'm talking about the cards that slip into high-end televisions and eliminate the need for a cable box. We need one for the PC so that we can access ALL the channels we pay for.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:38 pm Reply with quote
xyzzy
 
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Never going to happen. The cable companies want everyone to rent a STB from them and the media companies want to kill the DVR. You can't even buy a STB that uses cablecard.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:33 pm Reply with quote
jcllings
 
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xyzzy wrote:
Never going to happen. The cable companies want everyone to rent a STB from them and the media companies want to kill the DVR. You can't even buy a STB that uses cablecard.


So what you're saying is that no one will build one for us, which I already knew. The question then becomes, "What keeps us from building our own?".
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:09 pm Reply with quote
xyzzy
 
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DMCA for one, it would circumvent an access control technology. Watching the channels you pay for is against the law if you don't do it in the manner the media companies want. Just like watching a DVD you bought on a computer running Linux is illegal.

Cablecard is also surely patented, so you can't make anything cablecard compatible without licensing the technology from cablelabs. That also assumes that you reverse engineer the cablecard communication protocol and decryption method.

Cablecard is the death of all choice and further development of TV in this country. 20 years ago you could buy a VCR, and the MPAA tried to get them made illegal. They failed then. Now with digital TV and cablecard, they have suceeded. There are no VCRs, or anything like them, for cablecard. If you want anything to work with digital cable at all, you must rent what the cable company chooses to provide for you.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:09 pm Reply with quote
travis
 
Joined: 25 Dec 2006
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The Tivo series 3 use the Cablecard, and I almost bought one. However I didn't want to pay the $800 and a subscription fee.

http://www.Tivo.com/2.0.boxdetails.asp?box=series3HDDVR

If there were a PCI tuner card that supported the Cablecard I would probably buy a few.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:29 am Reply with quote
jcllings
 
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travis wrote:
The Tivo series 3 use the Cablecard, and I almost bought one. However I didn't want to pay the $800 and a subscription fee.

http://www.Tivo.com/2.0.boxdetails.asp?box=series3HDDVR

If there were a PCI tuner card that supported the Cablecard I would probably buy a few.


Perhaps this is the answer, then: Create a PCI card that a CableCard can be plugged into. Surely technical info for CableCard compatibility exists out there somewhere. After all the TV Set companies have to have access to it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:03 pm Reply with quote
ScionAltera
 
Joined: 11 Jan 2007
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Location: Portland, OR




CableCARDs are PCMCIA form factor. All you need for hardware is a PCMCIA slot.

http://sewelldirect.com/PCItoPCMCIA.asp

Someone just needs to write a driver to make use of the card. In fact, the specification defining the CableCARD hardware is public.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CableCARD
http://www.opencable.com/downloads/specs/OC-SP-CCCP2.0-I05-070105.pdf

The reason nobody has done it yet is that in order to authenticate with the CableCARD you must supply an ID, which is sent to the headend. Your cable provider decides whether that ID is acceptable or not. They will be... "reluctant" to authorize a box that isn't certified by Cable Labs.
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it seems your getting your wish
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:07 pm Reply with quote
salami
 
Joined: 14 Jan 2007
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http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=344

looks like your getting your wish
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:39 pm Reply with quote
kelargo
 
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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They will be... "reluctant" to authorize a box that isn't certified by Cable Labs.


The card comes from the cable company. You insert it into your CableCard ready TV set. ... or MythBox, after testing/verifying the driver...

What you dont get is the nice menu system that comes with the cable company's digital converter box with you plug the cable card into your CableCard ready tv set. The cable company has no control over what you plug the cable card into..

I dont think they really care, as long as you're paying for the service
and not hacking a CableCard for extra, illegal service. I'm sure the Cable Card has some sort of HW address, like a MAC address, that registers the viewing device to obtain certain level of service. That's how Cable Digital TV converter boxes work, at least, to some extent...
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